Chris Ferguson, a psychology professor, discusses the weak link between social media and mental health problems and explains how previous moral panics have followed a similar pattern. He highlights that studies on social media and depression/suicide are inconsistent and that teens have some of the lowest suicide rates, with other age groups seeing higher increases in suicide rates. Additionally, the conversation touches on topics such as gun control hindered by tribalism, the illiberalism on the left, and diversity in storytelling, and challenges readers to finish unread books and video games.

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